Backsight Records in raw files in FG2004

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Backsight Records in raw files in FG2004

Postby Grant » Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:12 pm

Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see any record of an initial backsight shot getting recorded in the RAW file. The backsight point gets shot, appears on the screen and can get exported in dxf and xyz files, but doesn't appear in the RAW file. I suspect this is why i also cannot view or balance a traverse.

Some other points while I'm posting:

It would be nice if the target height was set to zero automatically when shooting reflectorless, and back to the running target height when back in IR mode. An eye-catching reminder that you are in reflectorless mode would be hand also.


Since we usually shoot building corners using the angle offset mode, and usually shoot a few at a time, it would be much nicer if it stayed in that mode until otherwise told. It would save a lot of key pressing.


The list button toggles in the automap library screen should retain their settings when you exit the screen.


When exporting a fieldbook file, what order is it exporting points and lines? It seems totally random. A client would like periodic updates in fieldbook format, but this will be difficult as each days work gets mixed in randomly.
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Additional comment about the FBK file

Postby landmarksm » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:40 pm

Why is it that FG2004 doesn't make a true fieldbook file like XG did? FG2004 only exports the points and tells Autodesk how to draw the lines.

It sure would be nice to have the actual fieldbook data like before.

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Postby Jason Poitras » Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:58 am

Hi Grant,

Backsight:
When you shoot to a backsight, this is what you should see in your raw file:

OC,OP1,N 1000.0000,E 1000.0000,EL100.0000,--
SP,PN26,N 1050.0000,E 1000.0000,EL94.7510,--
BK,OP1,BP26,BS0.00000,BC0.00000
LS,HI5.000,HR10.000
--Occupy Check
-- Observed Values: HA 0°00'00.0" VA 90°00'00.0" SD 50.12' HD 50.12'
-- Distance Calculated: 50.00'
-- Distance Error: 0.12'
-- BS Elevation: 94.75'
-- BS Elevation Error: 0.25'

FBK File:

For FieldGenius 2004 the FBK file no longer contains any observations, only cordinate points and figure information.

Now that we create a raw file that is exactly the same as a TDS RW5 file, you can edit your raw file directly in LDD using the Survey Link program in the Data Collection/Input menu. Using survey link you can review your raw file in a nice spreadsheet format and correct any errors that may have been made. You can then convert the FieldGenius raw file to a FBK file that can be imported into LDD.

Target Height Set to Zero:

I will add this to our wish list.

Angle Offset:

This is already on our "Things to fix" list.

AutoMap Library:

This is already on our "Things to fix" list.

FBK Point Listing:

I believe, not 100% certain, that the point listing order in the FBK file will match the order that the points were stored in the database.
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Postby Grant » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:57 pm

I see that entry for all my backsights, except for the first one (backsight by azimuth). Since FG shoots and apparently records a point, I figured it would appear in the RAW file and be a part of the traverse record. It doesn't appear to be happening, and if the backsight point is part of my traverse, I can't get a traverse report or balance.



[quote="Jason Poitras"]Hi Grant,

Backsight:
When you shoot to a backsight, this is what you should see in your raw file:

OC,OP1,N 1000.0000,E 1000.0000,EL100.0000,--
SP,PN26,N 1050.0000,E 1000.0000,EL94.7510,--
BK,OP1,BP26,BS0.00000,BC0.00000
LS,HI5.000,HR10.000
--Occupy Check
-- Observed Values: HA 0°00'00.0" VA 90°00'00.0" SD 50.12' HD 50.12'
-- Distance Calculated: 50.00'
-- Distance Error: 0.12'
-- BS Elevation: 94.75'
-- BS Elevation Error: 0.25'

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Postby Jason Poitras » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:29 pm

Hi Grant,

Are you trying to balance it in FieldGenius or in MSCAD? Send me an email with your file so I can look at it.

If you shoot to an assumend bearing and don't specify a bs point number, we don't show the following information:

--Occupy Check
-- Observed Values: HA 0°00'00.0" VA 90°00'00.0" SD 50.12' HD 50.12'
-- Distance Calculated: 50.00'
-- Distance Error: 0.12'
-- BS Elevation: 94.75'
-- BS Elevation Error: 0.25'

To display this, we need to know a point number so we can compute an inversed distance to make a comparison to the measured distance.
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